The thing with Kathleen is that it’s liking hanging out with a friend. A goofy funny relatable friend who’s gonna lend you a lipgloss. I used to feel that way about Jaclyn but can’t relate to her at all anymore. Kathleen, for all her collabs and wealth and success, is still very much like my own friends and has stayed down to earth. I love that she’s not trying to convince us at all times that she’s glamorous (Which she is).